It’s not that you’re an idiot, but it’s wise to avoid using a chromium/blink based browser since they are building a dangerous monopoly. Firefox is the best known alternative, but there are a couple other options.

Yeah that tracks, do Google next haha

Right, many Europeans have basic consumer protections lol

Be careful about “unsubscribing” to various services.

They will unsubscribe you, but then they also have all of your information (name, address, anything else) on record and confirmed. They can profit when the sell that data to another mailer “service”. It’s like a Hydra.

Co-signed

The thing is that on leftist forums, the stakes for a veganism debate are pretty high cause it easily causes a 50-50ish flameout.

Mods would appreciate if people like OP didn’t intentionally troll to stir that sort of thing up (if the discussion takes place organically and respectfully, then whatever).

Mods would also appreciate if people didn’t feed obvious trolls who are just starting things up, like you pointed out, there are specific places to post about that sort of topic.

Please don’t feed obvious trolls

Leave the personal attack off in the future please

Don’t do whatever this is.

Can you provide a source for this? Makes it easier to moderate if you can back up what you’re saying.

Right, you can assume that people around here aren’t racist/homophobic/transphobic etc… Cause even if they are, they’re gonna catch a ban as soon as they expose themselves. They generally don’t deserve your full wrath if we’re fundamentally “on the same side” just cause they are kinda naive and not big fat theory nerds like some people around here.

In the future you can go against the position, but you repeatedly used “you” in this post making it personal and right up against our civility guidelines.

It seems like you had a point to contribute somewhere in there, but maybe try and communicate it in a way that isn’t so pointed at the other user. We’d like to discourage that sort of toxicity here. Maybe if they were being a total shithead or reactionary, feel free to go off, but it seems unwarranted.

Sectarianism (which the OP is also guilty of) makes for a dull conversation.

Particularly in the English-speaking world, there is no sect of socialism that has enough political power for that sort of conversation to matter. It’s just shit-flinging over the internet. I know that Lemmy has a ton of “Reddit” in it’s genes, but my hope is that we can try and build something more interesting here.

You think that all of them do it out of knowledge? Remember that if they weren’t born before 1980, they’ve really only experienced the effects of capitalism on their countries. I’ve heard it happen before, that some 20-25 year old who immigrated with their parents in the mid-2000s is going off about how “communism ruined my country and that’s why we had to leave”, or something.

In 1991 the referendum to dissolve the USSR was voted against by the population (of course it happened anyway).

I don’t mean to suggest that the political or economic systems implemented under communist governments were perfect, or even that great, but in the English-speaking world there is a tendency to assume that everyone (or even a majority of people) who lived there were against their own government, when it’s much more complex than that.

A modern example I noticed recently was in this video, where the people living in the warzone in Eastern Ukraine are generally supportive of Russia, and miss the USSR (I mean, if anything, the current conflict never would have happened). Of course these two people don’t represent their whole community, but it’s more complex than is commonly portrayed (all I’m trying to say).

Watch from around 3:15 till about 20 minutes in when the old guy in the shirt is done talking (or just watch the whole thing idc): https://youtu.be/drhgjxSJG6M?t=197

Everyone else just lived in pretty poor, if stable, conditions.

That’s the thing, they lived in a poor country. Not strictly because of their political system (as many flaws as it had), but because of global economics, and trade hostility from the USA that intentionally hampered growth. It’s not like they were purposely kept poor for funsies or cause the government were big meanies (sure, they were meanies in other ways). The wealth inequality between modern political leaders and funding sources (where the real power comes from) and the average citizen (particularly in the USA) is far greater than it ever was in the USSR.

Things are better for some and worse for many since then in Russia, but in other places like Ukraine, Belarus, and Moldova everyone lost except for the rich guys who pillaged all the private infrastructure.

People might not like it, but you can watch a couple of people who are living in Eastern Ukraine (yes, the literal warzone) in this video talk about how shit was better until 1991. Cause, you know, they wouldn’t be living in a warzone for one thing. Watch from 03:15 till about 20 minutes in, if you’d like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drhgjxSJG6M

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