I kinda thought using the first vaccine and the most current vaccine in my explanation would infer that I am aware of the difference

The question is meant to be more conceptually overarching and abstract

If the innovation is the airplane then it doesn’t matter if it’s an old timey biplane or or a next generation stealth fighter

If the the innovation is the vaccine then it doesn’t matter if it’s a smallpox vaccine or an mRNA vaccine

It doesn’t seem like you’re understanding what I’m saying much at all.

By your definition everything is innovative

Maybe that in of itself is the problem here, equating the words innovative and invention.

Try replacing innovative with groundbreaking or original perhaps

But saying that advent of aviation and automobiles is just bikes and trains with wings or more wheels kinda goes to prove a lack of arguing in good faith here

I am also thankful that my children were born in this era as well

There has been significant progress in the treatment of cystic fibrosis

Still not the kind of innovation I am talking about

I don’t see very many humans naturally flapping their arms flying around very often

There was that one guy, but I’d say it was more falling with style than flying

… and he didn’t stick the landing

I also disagree

Your reply in of itself is a fallacy

An airplane relying upon improvements engine and material design does not negate the very real revelation of human flight to the world

Nor does your oversimplified and ultimately incorrect explanation steam engines and evolution of horse drawn vehicles

Especially considering the first automobiles were steam powered

It completely misses the point

The horseless carriage itself was the innovation

I apologize for not explaining the question more thoroughly

I am talking about innovation in a fully realized concept

I always thought that flying cars would be the next major leap in innovation, but it’s still in its fledgling stages

Not the definition I am referring to

• introducing new ideas; original and creative in thinking.

Conceptually, improving upon something isn’t entirely original

It can be hard to grasp. We can’t imagine what life and the mindset of people were before a concept existed because we have always had it.

Yes, we can imagine the difficulty of travel before the invention of aircraft

But it’s hard for us to understand the profound difference to life and everyone’s worldview at the time

People fantasized about human flight for what seemed like forever to them, so long that it became a fantasy that many believed would never be realized

Then suddenly it was

What have we experienced collectively since the 80s that is like that?

Yes, we’ve certainly progressed in nearly every field

But are they truly innovative or are they a natural evolution of something that already existed?

I agree, they most certainly did say mRNA

I recall having vaccines in the 80s, probably what saved me from polio

Same could be said about everything we have though couldn’t it?

Cars, aircraft, boats… All improved significantly…

But is any of it truly innovative?

Because it was Obama so it has to be bad

That’s as far as the rationale goes

Just pay your 50% federal sales tax on everything

What else am I supposed to fill my shelves with? Books?

Pfffffffffff

Is equating the defense of Ukraine with that hat the entire point of the meme?

Yes. The ol’ establish yourself as a candidate by putting them at ease by selling yourself as just the younger version of your running mate while simultaneously differentiating yourself among a diverse population of nearly 200 million voters with just 3 months to work with and no time to adjust strategy

Seems easy, have no idea why she could have possibly lost with such an easy task.

Definitely. This is what beaten badly looks like:

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It’s not like we can even blame it on the fire hose of misinformation the Trump campaign will never be able to stop themselves from shitting out

Trump has already been president. He failed so hard that he lost by over 7 million votes after just 4 years and 2 impeachments while in office.

Then he was found liable for rape and had to pay millions, then he was convicted on 34 felony counts of fraud, and still he was still on the hook for federal indictments for his attempt to overthrow the government in 2020 in which not only did many participants serve prison time for, some died in the process of it. Many of Trump’s own officers were also convicted. Giuliani has been sued into bankruptcy and has been disbarred for what Trump asked him to do.

Yeah. That seems like a good idea to give that guy power again. /s

Trump objectively represents the worst that America has to offer to itself and the world.

He lied his ass off to get his first term, no one learned from that.

I genuinely felt sorry for his victims that first time.

Then he lied his ass off for a 2nd term.

This time, I feel like people deserve what they get this time.

To me, they’re just as culpable as Trump this time. Every horrible thing that happens this time have zero hesitation to remind people that they voted for it.