Well it was originally me starting a mud fight about the meaning of the word tankie, but then we got sidetracked.

IMO, anarchists and communists have more overlap than we might think we do.

I would go even further. If a country exists and everybody has a national identity, all happy citizens. Then one region decides to become separatist. If the rest of the country doesn’t let them separate, I would qualify that as imperialism as well.

lmao I’ll keep searching for that inner liberal then

true, and a government being elected also doesn’t make it immune to bourgeois influence, and especially not to influence from the politicians themselves

cheers, I’ll take a look at these but also look for non government-sponsored sources

Alright, well thanks for engaging with me I know I was ruffling feathers.

Okay I may have worded that wrong but that is also misleading. China is a huge power (I say this is a problem as you may recall). Having diplomatic ties with China is necessary for most nations. China refuses to have diplomatic ties with anyone who recognizes Taiwan as a sovereign nation. So, everybody pretends they don’t recognize it, officially. In reality Taiwan has its own government and isn’t ruled over by China. In 1991, Taiwan/ROC even recognized the DPRC.

by my town no. By another country overseas, yes

Sorry haha got a little carried away with the sarcasm. This narrative is used by the US a lot, for example Black Lives Matter protests

It doesn’t elude me that the West tries to paint China worse than it is. Although I have learned a thing or two today.

Again you construe publicly owned and government-owned

That sounds like we’re quite aligned with our methodology actually. So why are you so standoffish?

This debate went way off the rails, but maybe tell me about how you think things should go. For example what would be a way for the US to transition to communism.

Are you ready to have an actual conversation

I thought I was having one. I’m just disagreeing with you on some things and you somehow seem to think that means I’m not engaging. I’m trying.

Let’s say you go to a bar and there are some Nazis at the next table. You hear them say, “and fuck those communists, they will get what is coming to them”. Are you going to go over there and say, “yeah, fuck those tankies! They’re insufferable authoritarians”? Because all that means is that you’re going out of your way to validate Nazis trying to kill communists and aligning yourself with them. When someone says, “what the fuck, punch those Nazis, don’t validate them” are you going up say, “ergo, communists should be criticized”.

Woah no and I’m sorry if I’ve given the impression I would do something like that. I consider marxist-leninist communists to be misguided comrades, and I hope you can think of me the same way.

Hey look it’s that homophobia

How is that homophobia? I think you’re construing something here.

It is not coincidental that you ignored the vast majority of what I said, as it was concrete history.

It is not coincidental that I skimmed this comment as well because it is really fucking long. sorry

Okay fine if I have time tmrw I’ll do some extra reading on WPPD. Got a good resource?

many anarchists are indistinguishable from centrists when it comes to actual geopolitical issues

simply gotta disagree. anarchists reject empire and authority. Centrists often support imperialism so long as it is favoring their own country. Anarchists typically oppose the imperialism of their own countries more than anything else.

I’m really trying to engage with people here and I’ve conceded multiple good points. I’ve learned some things and I’m seeing new perspectives.

Also why do you care so much about finding a way to call me a liberal it’s obsessive :P

Liberalism is the dominant ideology of capitalism,

gonna stop reading right here since I’ve stated I’m anticapitalist and it feels like going in circles. sorry but can only answer so many of these huge comments in a day. If there’s an argument you really want me to engage with please let me know

Can you explain how Whole Process People’s Democracy is “top-down?”

Can you explain to me how it’s not?

Further, can you explain why it’s a good thing for Capitalists to control the press, and not the public?

No, because it’s not. Nice strawman. Is this public you speak of the government?

It’s maintained by Reporters without Borders and is not US affiliated

sorry, I’m trying