The West Wing had a segment with some kids arguing for suffrage, and it convinced me. Everyone else I’ve talked to, however…

It’s possible to think both “these people deserve to have their fingernails removed” and “a just society cannot inflict cruel punishment”

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Lore? What’s that?

-WotC

Nah, it’s fat. That’s why polar animals have blubber

I think I meant to reply to the OP, sorry. Your comment is great, and I like it much more.

That’s a nice thought, but what comes across is “Your current problems aren’t important, now support my fringe political view”

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Is “Try to make the world a better place” really so high a bar?

So instead do nothing and circlejerk how miserable you are?

And at no point did I advocate for doing something trivial. I said pick one thing that’s important to you and put your effort into that. Do you think poor people deserve homes? Volunteer your time on weekends to build them through organizations like Habitat for Humanity. Do you think that’s just a bandaid over a societal wound? Find a group of like-minded people and try to fix that deeper wound.

My recommendation is to pick one problem and focus on it. Don’t feel like you need to fix everything in the world, just make a small part of the world better. Volunteer at a soup kitchen, clean up litter, canvas for a ballot measure you care about. Doing nothing while agonizing over how much is to be done helps nobody.

How convenient

See, that’s what I mean. You treat The Revolution as an inevitability, then twist yourself into knots to justify why it hasn’t happened yet.

Me:

In my opinion, Marx wrote his conclusion first, then cherry picked the points in history that supported his conclusion.

You:

I can’t fathom the arrogance of people who say “Marx just didn’t think of x, y or z”

Please, enlighten me how I said that

Why shouldn’t I? I stand by my original point and you’ve done nothing to rebut it

Oh ok, what I really meant was:

In my opinion, Marx wrote his conclusion first, then cherry picked the points in history that supported his conclusion.

In my opinion, Marx wrote his conclusion first, then cherry picked the points in history that supported his conclusion.

Nothing in that implies what you’re accusing me of

The economy of Vietnam is a developing mixed socialist-oriented market economy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Vietnam

That doesn’t sound very communist to me, and I’ve heard plenty of times that a mixed economy isn’t a socialist one at all.

Or is that only when it’s a European country?

Nothing you said rebutted the section of my comment you quoted, you just started fighting strawmen

The US lost a war to Vietnamese nationalists that adopted the trappings of Communism in order to get materiel support from China. They rejected it, and China, as soon as possible