You’re really pretending you can’t see the trope you’ve tripled down on? Its ZOG.
I don’t think it’s anti-semitic to observe the reality around us, the fact that ZOG exists doesn’t mean I can’t observe the ways in which Israel exerts control over US politics and opinions. As I pointed out in another comment, they provided historical funding to a pro-israel candidate to oppose Cori Bush, is it “Zog” to point out that Israel exerted control there?
Idk I used it as a “chad”
Everyone arguing with you is anti-zionist.
Okay? I never said otherwise.
I don’t think it’s anti-semitic to observe the reality around us. As I asked above,
Is it anti-semitic “Zog” narrative to say that Israel bought, and therefore control the outcomes in, Missouri District?
I’m not saying anything about shadow Jewish cabals controlling governments. I’m talking about the objective ways we can all see Israel exert control on U.S politics and opinions.
Edit: also
We want Isreal as it exists to end.
Do you not want Israel as a whole to end? Do you wish to reform them?
Is it anti-semitic “Zog” narrative to say that Israel bought, and therefore control the outcomes in, Missouri District ? (Cori Bush lost to a pro-israel candidate which attained historical funding from AIPAC)
Edit: it’s not black and white where Israel controls America OR America controls Israel.
They both control each other in different ways/on different issues. It’s not anti-semitic to point out the fact that Israel exerts control over the US sometimes.
The anti-semitic trope being what exactly?
Strawmans are really fun.
the rest of what Israel brings is too valuable to the US global goals, so it goes along with Israel to preserve that and is therefore controlled on issues that Israel chooses to exert control over.
Apologies, you are right actually.
Israel doesn’t control the US.
BOTH are controlled by the will of the bourgeois and this is as far as any analysis is allowed to go, doing any further analysis would be nonsense.
Dialectical and historical materialism is, in my opinion, one of the best texts for an introduction to Marxism-leninism.
Id read Some of the other more recommended stuff like Principles of Communism, the Manifesto, etc and had vague ideations.
But I found that text on my own while looking into “Stalinism” and it just made everything “click”.
Read Stalin 🗿
Yes that is antisemitic nonsense, but it also doesn’t make any sense leaving that aside.
So are you denying that
we “need” them to extend our sphere of influence to the Middle East, and they launder money from the people to the politicians
Or did you specifically leave the context out because you can’t refute it?
It’s anti-semitic and doesn’t make sense?
So far this cycle, an AIPAC-endorsed candidate has won in every district (322 races) where an endorsee was on the ballot.
All 129 AIPAC-backed Democrats who have had their primary races in 2024 have won.
193 AIPAC-backed Republicans have won their elections.
https://www.aipacpac.org/2024election
You’re saying the global imperialist hegemon is controlled by an appendage of its own policy.
I’m saying the global imperialist hegemon created a base for pushing and encouraging their global imperialist policies and that includes pushing said policies back to the homeland.
The whole works to ensure the individual stays in line.
You’re giving a pass to the US for it’s policy and part in genocide by saying its “controled” by Isreal.
How? “Just doing my job” didn’t absolve Nazis and SS soldiers, it doesn’t absolve the US.
I personally do believe the US would prefer the genocide not be happening, as it’s bad for business, especially during an election year where more eyes are on politics.
But the rest of what Israel brings is too valuable to the US global goals, so it goes along with Israel to preserve that and is therefore controlled on issues that Israel chooses to exert control over.
The US could theoretically not allow themselves to be controlled. But that’s not the reality.
It is of course the other way around. Isreal destabilizes the Middle East toward the equilibrium the US favors. The US uses Isreal, its not controled by it
And Israel does this for nothing in return? Just like they give money to specific politicians for nothing in return?
It’s a mutual relationship. btw…
Are absolving Israel of its role in the genocide by saying it’s just a tool of the US?..
Read Stalin 🗿
Exaggerative jokes are illegal in “memes”?
Dialectical and historical materialism is, in my opinion, the best way to analyze the world and therefore leads to the proper conclusion quite often. Definitely more often than other ideologies/ways of examining things.
In comparison to people who follow other ways of examining things we are “always right”, this doesn’t mean I truly think following DiMat makes you omniscient.
Are you denying the existence of AIPAC?
The US government is controlled by Israel, not because Israel is Jewish and Jews control the world, but because we “need” them to extend our sphere of influence to the Middle East, and they launder money from the people to the politicians (government gives them billions, they send millions back to specific politicians in exchange for support through groups like AIPAC).
Thinking you are always right is one of the surest signs you’ve fallen down a propaganda rabbithole.
What? …
Do you think you’re wrong about things and not change your opinion to be the right one?
This makes no sense.
You should always strive to be right.
The communist immigrants living off the government while stealing our jobs and eating our pets!
My handshake brings all the boys to the yard.
So just accept your place in a broken system, got it. Just go support more increasingly right wing fascist policies and give up on any hope for Democracy.*
Pure strawman.
Pretty sure voting for a write in candidate/third party is, by definition, participating in the system.
You just accept the system is broken and undemocratic and believe others should accept this as well and give up.
You are more devoted to “order” than to justice; you prefer a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; you constantly say “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; you paternalistically believe you can set the timetable on progress and constantly advise the progressive to to wait for a “more convenient season”.
You are the “white moderate” MLK warned of, as is the vast majority of the party, though not for long, as the party increasingly seeks the support of the right to avoid allowing any policy victory for the left.
You are increasingly the Republican party of Cheney, as demonstrated by, not only his support for the party, but by the party and Kamala herself touting the endorsement, rather than ignoring it/distancing themselves.
Alaska has a Republican Governor along with a Republican Majority in the house and Senate, they have no restrictions on abortion.
Does this mean the Republican party is pro-choice or that by voting Republican we can secure abortion rights? The answer is no.
Good to know.
Maybe if you think calling out all of the objectively true things Israel does equals the Zog narrative, maybe you are the one who believes in the Zog narrative.
I personally can seperate Israel from the Jewish people and don’t think that Israels objectively controlling certain aspects of US politics reflects on Jewish people or Judaism at all, but instead solely on the colonial zionist entity of Israel which doesn’t represent Jewish people or Judaism.
(Edit: and any country which had the leverage Israel has would be using it for their advantage as well, Israel just happens to be the one in that unique position.)