This looks great actually. Thank you!

This looks really, really, great. Thank you!

I did have a look at this, right on their front page it says “focal board is now mattermost boards” or something, this one in particular really does look like part of a larger ecosystem. Even the github repo is being retired as it’s being merged into mattermost server or something.

It’s as though this proposal was dreamed up by someone who has never installed anything on their PC.

Like are they going to block entire repositories? When you apt get install x from within france to they expect repositories to magically give you the french version?

You don’t even need to do that though. It would be the “fork” that contains the blocking, surely.

Weird take.

So adapt to some specific one

I guess I’m asking for recommendations as to which will be the easiest to adapt to.

Is this really true?

Twilio is the biggest sms back end and it’s like $10 per number month or something.

Australia also, South West corner. Water is fine to drink, I just don’t like the taste. We collect rain water instead - heaps of that.

The bulk of reddit has already gone back to reddit.

Don’t get me wrong, lemmy is great just the way it is. We don’t need a continued influx from reddit (although lets see what happens on 1 July).

You’re right in a way, but I think you’re applying a narrow definition of “opinion” when I think most people ITT are thinking about “behaviours”.

Sure, it’s not great to exclude dissenting political opinions, the intolerance paradox being a notable exception. That said, I’m not here to discuss politics.

Say for example that some users will do anything for fake internet points - post anything, say anything, there behaviour is guided by the pursuit of karma and building some kind of following. Other users will do anything for engagement, whatever it takes to get others to engage with them including trolling. I’m happy enough for these types of users to find more rewarding platforms elsewhere. Note that’s different to excluding them, it’s just being a part of a place that isn’t fertile ground for their fixations.

This sounds fantastic to me.

It’s pretty much what happened on mastodon with the twitter-storm in November.

Huge influx of new users, about a third hung around - but it was the third who were the most like-minded.

I agree. If lemmy continues to grow, inevitably some servers will be shit, but I imagine there will be other non-federated or less-federated instances. beehaw has already started down that path.

Trolls are generally looking for maximum carnage, so I imagine there’s less incentive / reward posting somewhere like lemmy.

There needs to be a way to link to a post in an instance agnostic way.

For example, this post is in !asklemmy@lemmy.ml and the id is 1255605, but that id number won’t work on any other instance.

If someone shares a link with me like https://lemmy.ml/post/1255605 that will take me to lemmy.ml, where I’m not logged in. If I have an account on lemmy.world then the only way for me to comment on this post is to navigate to lemmy.world/c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml manually and then literally look at the feed to find this post. It’s a pain in the butt for new / current threads but will be a huge pain for older threads.

Redditors in general just aren’t that into lemmy. Most redditors come here expecting to find a 1 for 1 replacement pre-warmed with millions of users and brimming with reddit culture.

Not having an algorithm to tell people what they want to see is a bigger impediment to attracting users than most people realise.

Additionally, I think mods are reluctant to direct users to any other community as they will give up lordship of their own fiefdom. Sorry, I acknowledge that I have probably an unfairly dim view of mods. I’m sure some are amazing, but certainly many are self-obsessed power trippers. They act in their own interests to preserve control rather than acting in the interest of the community.

The biggest problem I see is fragmentation, people are creating the same community in different instaces, /c/Piracy for example.

I agree, to an extent. You’re right in that if you were part of the vibrant community of /r/piracy then it’s miserable to see it shatter here on lemmy. That said, this only applies if you’re expecting lemmy to be a 1 for 1 reddit replacement. For this type of community to remain cohesive, /r/piracy would have had to spin up their own instance and in /r/piracy direct everyone to lemmy.piracyinstance.whatever.

You can’t really “fix” this in a central way because even if you did, it would be trivial to create an instance that would allow duplicate community names. Also, I can see a lot of use cases for lemmy which do not intend to be federated.

That said, it’s not necessarily as big a problem as it appears, if you just accept that this is how the fediverse works. There’s no single source of control, so of course people can create 147 different /c/piracy communities if they wish to. Once you accept that, then it’s not really that difficult to subscribe to all the /c/piracy communities you can find.

The problem itself could be diminished by a few new features which I feel certain will emerge in the future:

• linked communities, where one communities content is syndicated to another. So if you post in !selfhosted@lemmy.world then you also post in !selfhosted@lemmy.ml. This would work differently to cross-posting, all comments would be reflected on both instances.
• grouped communities, where you can subscribe to a group of /c/selfhosted communities with one click, so you see them all in your feed.

This. You can either have key-per-device or key-per-person. I don’t really share access with anyone so key-per-person (just 1 for me) is the way.

If I did have multiple keys, they would be kept in the same place, so anyone getting access to one would get access to all of them anyway.

Everyone says that the loss of these 3rd party app users will destroy them, but I disagree. I don’t think that the quality of experience is as closely linked to profitability as most people think. Ad-Clicking viewers of cat gifs are blissfully unaware of the current fiasco.

It’s not a binary decision, they’re not mutually exclusive.

It’s like arguing about browsers. I use Firefox and I use Chrome every day.

I’ve been using mastodon & reddit everyday, but while I’ve had a lemmy account for a long while but until now the community hasn’t been well aligned with my interest.

If just a third of the current active users stick around I can see it becoming part of my daily scrolling.

That’s the suggestion.

Problem is there doesn’t seem to be much interest from anyone with experience hosting something for thousands of users.

Yeah, obviously it would be difficult to keep everything in sync without a single source of truth.

As it is now, the server you’re connected to is doing all the work. I think the existing model can be modified to reduce the current points of confusion.

Like not being able to see communities on other servers in search is a problem.