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Huh?

But seriously, I don’t think Hamas and Israel are comparable entities.

Well this is the most confused meme I’ve seen in a while.

People are recommending Marx as well for economics over here, and while you might disagree with Sowell, at least he didn’t write science fiction. Unlike Marx did (e.g. classless society = speculative scifi). Many other leftist economists are pretty much in fantasy land in my opinion as well.

Oh ok. Fuck OP then :)

The latter part is kinda wrong. Article 17 of UDHR.

1. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

And also kinda article 30.

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

Yeah, the practical problem with that of course is that if you have more humans than houses, it’s impossible to immediately fulfil the “human right”. This is a fine goal though, but the implementation matters quite a lot.

Well. Ok.

I probably cannot help you really, but I’ll throw a suggestion. You should start your study of economics here: https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Economics-Thomas-Sowell/dp/0465060730

Sadly, you will scoff at and ignore my advice right now, but perhaps you’ll remember this some day and are able to integrate the knowledge better after some life experience. Good luck and remember: you don’t have to be a communist. You can choose to be something much more. It’s never too late to change, especially when you’re young.

You’re literally a self described libertarian lmao

Yes, well, some people are braver than others, and are thus able to declare what they believe in. What do you believe in?

Anyway, stop dodging the question. What economic writings have you read from Marx that you’re basing your opinion of Marx on? What problems did you have with them?

There’s a bit of a “oh, you like economics? Describe all economic theories then.” vibe here but I guess I started it. Sorry about that.

I don’t know why you would bring Marx into this. He was a philosophist, not an economist or a politician. As a philosophist, he was correct in many of his observations, the problem comes from trying to actually implement in the real world some of the things he said.

Historical materialism & class struggle for instance. He describes the change from feodalism to capitalism as it happened but then goes deep into conjecture land in fantasizing the future change to socialism and communism. When this was violently experimented with in 1900s, it didn’t go at all as he described. The class struggle is not inevitable at all, and only happens with a combination of bad leadership and agitation (check lemmygrad.ml for practical modern examples of latter). His idea of classless society was basically speculative science fiction, and still is.

I disagree with many points of his critique of capitalism. For instance, the value of a product or service is not derived from the labor put to it, but the value of the product or service to whoever is buying it. Thus surplus is a valid concept.

I disagree that wealth concentration is a fundamental problem. In the grand scale, more individual wealth leads to more individual happiness, so the important thing is that everyone’s wealth increases. If my neighbor gets 100x richer in real wealth in the time I get 2x richer, I will still be 2x richer. It only becomes a problem if those figures are 100x and 1x or worse, or if he uses his 100x wealth to buy an army to take my stuff, and my claim is that this is not happening in most of the capitalist world.

I’ve just spent over a decade studying various schools of economics

Of course you have, dear.

From this extremely boring Finnish perspective, you guys in America set things on fire all the time. If that happened here once, we’d give the event a name and would talk about it for decades.

A cookie!

The way things look around USA, I wouldn’t be hugely surprised if some state tried to secede in the next 10 years. Then again, it wouldn’t be like brexit, because only the poor states in USA are looking to secede… and UK was certainly not a poor state in EU. That’s perhaps why they only shout about it and not do it: they look at the numbers and realize they’d be fucked without the rich states, which are almost entirely blue states.

Even UK, the richest country in EU, didn’t do brilliantly due to brexit. So in their funny way, they made it quite a lot less likely that any EU country actually wants to leave.

You should purge all the white cells from your body. Not only are they extremely militant cops, they’re white.

It’s probably because French citizens are smart enough to put their own well-being before their governing powers well-being.

In what way do they do this?

Reading an actual book on economics makes it impossible for a benevolent individual to be a communist, at least without a physically painful amount of cognitive dissonance.

Do you feel angry or depressed often? It’s cognitive dissonance. ;)

Asshole, stupid or communist? Oh wait, that was redundant.

MacBook Air

Which model? :) The current Macbook Airs don’t have fans.

Or just hoard your actual wealth like Scrooge McDuck and play openttd without paying a cent.

Probably a better game than 99% of that junk too.