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Are you really going to yell over someone accidentally taking the wrong ham and cheese sandwich?

Now they’re are doing it? There is nothing new about this, this has been a thing for YEARS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_X_(supercomputer)

G5

Oof, in only a couple years it was worthless.

Are you on Windows or Linux? On windows 11 go to settings > power and battery > power mode and if you set it to high performance it almost doubles the TDP of the CPU. On windows 10 click the battery and drag the slider to high performance. If what I read online is correct the T14 and the T15 are the exact same heatsink and motherboard so unless the 1" gap from the end of the heatsink to the vent is that much of a problem they should perform exactly the same, just like the later T14 and T16 models. But 4 years is more than enough time for the thermal paste to be toast. My P1 ruined it’s paste in less than 6 months, but that’s also an i9.

But that’s the world of modern Intel CPUs. Turbo boost as far as you possibly can until you can’t turbo anymore. Then in 6 months when the thermal paste is ruined you’re searching for a new machine.

Change your thermal paste. These machines (as do all modern machines) run hot, and their paste doesn’t last long if you’re a heavy user. Find a thermal paste that’s thick in particular.

The pump out effect is really drastic on these modern CPUs if you’re constantly hitting 100% load.

The only thing I’m really curious about is how far back the CPU gets throttled with the dGPU active and busy.

On both of my machines when I render a video using my GPU the CPU is still the limiting factor because of the codec I chose. On my 11th gen machine it took like 5 minutes before it was power throttled down to 25 watts. My gen 6 takes longer to power throttle and only goes down to 35 watts, but either power level that sucks. I already know the gen 7 dials back the clock speeds, but I’m mostly curious how far it goes and how quickly?

The easiest way to test this is just open a video game that’s taxing on the CPU and GPU, I don’t think the CPU throttles with light loads like if you opened furmark. Maybe benchmarking software would cause it to throttle.

Let me know how the thermals are on that machine. I ended up paying out the ass for a refurbished gen 6 because it comes with the 4090 and a MUCH bigger heatsink. From what I saw initially in the reviews the performance is worse not just because the 100 series has worse IPC, but the machine doesn’t actually boost as much since it’s more thermally limited.

HOWEVER the machine gets a LOT better battery.

My gen 4 would get anywhere between 30 minutes and 2 hours of battery life unless I’m doing literally nothing on it. This gen 6 gets like 4 hours unless I’m heavily taxing it. But from people online I saw them say 7 hours is easily doable. And having a GPU that doesn’t use 20 watts sitting idle sure helps.

Which series? T/P or one of the economy options? The T, X, W, and later on P series have been the only models people really like.

We have a few T series at work and they’re not bad. My T14 Gen. 1 doesn’t thermal throttle at all as long as its thermal paste isn’t toast. It will run at basically its full all core boost speeds all day long. The newer 12th Gen. machines dial their clocks back a smidge under full load, but that’s because they have 2x the cores of my measly 10th Gen. machine.

Also I have a T14s AMD and that thing is a BEAST for such a small machine. 35 watts out of an AMD 6 core is no slouch for something that small. And I easily get 7+ hours of battery life out of my abusive use.

They didn’t. They did kinda change the goalpost though.

Which model did you get? The i7 or the i9? The i7 models have a minimum guaranteed TDP of 28 watts, while the i9 is at least 35. But 35 watts on such a high end CPU is dire. The Gen. 7 also killed their high end GPU options, but maybe that leaves more power headroom for the CPU.

That’s still better than my P1 Gen. 4 which throttles down to 25 watts. 25 watts on an 11th Gen. i9 is AWFUL performance.

Fully autonomous (no driver needed) or is level 3 self driving enough? (tesla straddles that line)

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mario-Hirz/publication/322368082/figure/fig1/AS:587117818314753@1516991204976/Levels-of-autonomous-driving-according-to-SAE-J3016.png

I actually really dislike DLSS and FSR. At least to me the upscaling is pretty noticeable (but not the end of the world), but the artifacts that it causes drive me insane. I haven’t tested Onion Ring with it. But for example FH5 I get all sorts of ghost images on my screen and they go away as soon as I turn off DLSS.

Also weirdly on my laptop I got worse performance. I’m assuming that’s because I’m 100% CPU limited and there is a bit of CPU overhead to running DLSS.

I think their confusion comes from OPs title.

Why is it “e-waste go brrrrrrr” when OP is presumably saying they’re keeping this laptop out of the machine? _ machine go brr is a dumb meme in the first place, people using it the wrong way makes it even dumberer.

My friend had an older MSI gaming laptop and it was built like SHIT. He didn’t use it a whole lot until he started working at our company and it lasted maybe 4 years of reasonable daily use. Physically it was fine because he never actually touched the laptop. But that thing was so incredibly unstable and eventually ended with it’s M.2 and it’s internal sata slots being unusable, and making the machine take 5 minutes to boot.

I also bought two MSI “business” laptops and those things were absolute junk too. The touch panel came from the factory broken. Thankfully nobody wants to use that shit so we just disabled. But my co worker dropped one the other day and we need to replace the whole display assembly but I can’t for the life of me find parts for the machine. After about two weeks of searching my only options were A. a whole ass laptop for $500 (thankfully they depreciate lick a rock) or B. A complete display assembly for $375. No thanks, we’re replacing those pieces of shit.

Unless you want to game on it save yourself the suffering and just get a used thinkpad. The T14 gen 1 goes for $200 easily and it’s quadcore CPU is sufficient, and you can find it with the 6 core. I bought a T14 s gen 2 AMD for $300 and it’s 6 core blows that T14 out of the water and gets far better battery life, plus it’s iGPU ain’t no slouch. (All prices USD, can will probably be higher)

Side note are there any good hardware swap communities on lemmy? I have a number of old machines I need to get rid of.

There’s probably a better way but…

Open the page, right click, inspect, paste these in there and possibly expand the node list for users.

Users

document.querySelectorAll('.person-listing')

Comunities:

document.querySelectorAll('.community-link')

I had 0 users, but 69 communities.

Mad? No. Unhappy? Yes. If I don’t want the food I’m not going to eat the food. I don’t want people to waste their money on something I don’t want.

Even if it’s not my money I don’t like unnecessary spending.

Gift cards are intentionally earmarked for a specific purpose.

For a specific purpose at a specific vendor. And that’s why I hate gift cards. What if I want to go out to eat at a nice restaurant, but not the one they gave me the gift card for? Now you can’t go to the place you wanted to go to.

Or what if I want to buy something online, and it’s 50% off at vendor A but full price at vendor B and the gift card is for vendor B? Now your stick between paying for the item like normal, or wasting money getting it from the place that takes your gift card.

Uefis have been around since ~2010 so at this point all distros understand how to use them, and at this point default to working perfectly with them.

Secure boot is the only real potential road block. You can just turn it off if you don’t care about it.

After switching to Mac OS I have 0 interest in using Linux on my actual conputer. I still have windows machine for work, and my servers are all Linux. But any machine I want to use is gonna run Mac.

Windows 10 is over 10 years old at this point. Microsoft learned from XP It can’t live forever.

Businesses typically lease their machines for 2-3 years so they all support 11. And do you really think the government cares about regular citizens? lol.