There was an article by Google about the security of their code base, and one of their core findings was that old code is good, as it gets refined and more free of bugs over time. And of course conversely, new code is worse.

https://security.googleblog.com/2024/09/eliminating-memory-safety-vulnerabilities-Android.html

Generally it seems like capitalism’s obsession with growth is at odds with complex software. It’s basis in property also.

it’s the sort of tool that is really just fundamental now and should be ubiquitous and promoted and taught and talked about every where there is knowledge work. Even more so as there’s a great open source version of the tool.

I mean, maybe a hot take, maybe not … casual/social voice conversations at a distance were never a good idea in the first place.

Not absolutely at least. A disconnected voice that can summon your attention at any time wherever you are is a weird, uncomfortable, unpleasant and maybe unhealthy thing.

Textual communication at a distance odd much more natural, as it matches the disconnected communication with a more formal and abstract medium.

No worries!

If you’re interested in learning rust (I’ve certainly enjoyed) feel free to try to do so in the community. We’ve just about gone through the main course now, but I can very much see another round starting if people are interested.

The whole idea is to treat contributing as a group learning challenge rather than something onerous and hard.

Otherwise, if you’ve got sql/DB experience, that’s often just as relevant AFAICT (as is the case across the fediverse). I’d bet that if anyone sorts out a good query or schema someone else could integrate it into the code base.

Realistically, try to contribute directly is the likely answer.

Something in between organising and contributing might be starting a community for getting people to help and organise as best as they can on community contributions.

My own community !learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml is such an attempt. At the moment it’s been mostly a learning rust community, but getting some group contributions organised was always on the roadmap and now would be a good time to start doing that there if you’re interested.

If you are interested at all in this or the general idea, let me know how I can help.

Scaled all the way! I use my subscribed list (All is too much randomness.

Occasionally top 6 or 12 hours to catch up.

And occasionally All New/hot/scaled to see random new shit.

Oh sorry … I was talking about multi-communities, like for every user not just mods/admins.

I would expect a multi-reddit type function could be built in an app or frontend without needing core Lemmy changes too. Isn’t it just a matter of pulling the data from each community and displaying it in one combined feed?

Yea … but then each front end would need to implement it. Seems like some useful API endpoints would be better so the clients can just focus on the GUI.

awesome-lemmy has definitely gotten more awesome since I last saw it (IE, there are more things there)!!

Though I’m not sure there’s anything there quite touching on what I’m thinking about. I regularly hear about the lack of good moderation tools/interfaces … so I figure it makes sense to start a single project that’s relatively fast moving and comfortable with function creep to give admins/mods the tools or at least interface they want and need. The auto-mod stuff is important too, but the sense I get is that mods and admins feel somewhat blind and helpless with the tools as they are, which feels ripe to me for a richer interface.

Fair!

As an admin … do you think there’d be scope to build and provide a moderation plug-in?

I figure it could be a separate sideloaded server that calls the lemmy API and/or DB as necessary. This way it can be a separate project, be developed more experimentally in a less performance oriented fashion (I’m thinking a Python flask app) as it’s only mods and admins using it, and if it requires work from core lemmy devs should only ever need a new API endpoint (which is less onerous than a whole new feature).

Adding a link to it in the default lemmy UI for mods shouldn’t be too hard either.

Lemmy doesn’t have a lot of must have features (though it’s improving)

Fair, though I’m increasingly thinking multi-communities are pretty much “must-have”

Oh I know … I’m thinking of a feature where any community is allotted a certain amount of “live chat time” where they can run a websocket session for live chats. Presumably there’s a way to manage the resource overhead and get to a sweet spot. Plus, instead of updating everything, it’d only have to be comments in a single post.

Well the error I got in the browser suggests it needs to be in a web socket session or something, so there’s a chance the underlying backend code is still around and functional.

I’ve actually figured bringing the live updates thing back for temporary live chats could be an awesome feature.

This docs seem to nail it down. Couldn’t find that. Thanks!

I don’t get this, but also I have already blocked browser notifications so maybe that’s why I don’t see it.

I’m talking about the dev tools in the browser, not any notifications or anything. That this message appears in the console indicates that it’s broken in some way, as it’s an error message.

In fact my guess would be that the option is a vestige from back when lemmy kept the page constantly up to date with live updates. It’s was way too resource intensive so they let it go and maybe didn’t clean this up.

Came to post that I just tried to activate the setting out of curiosity (on lemmy.ml and lemm.ee), and there seems to be a block against it.

The following message appeared in the browser console:

The Notification permission may only be requested from inside a short running user-generated event handler.

So I’m guessing it got turned off at some point or it’s optional for instance admins?

How certain are you of what it’s supposed to do?

Did it actually register in the settings for you? (When I tried to activate it and save, lemmy sort of updated itself without the setting on … that may have happened to you too)

I see that for sure. Fediverse platforms don’t have to be locked in to mimicking big platforms though. User expectations and habits, frankly, can be a problem with this. Some are interested in experimentation. But if enough are kinda “conservative” about what they want, the devs will naturally not want to take risks.

All good. I didn’t want to attack or criticise. Sorry if I was being a dick.

Of a more relevant nature is that I don’t see posts to remote communities unless a fellow lemmy.ca user is subscribed to them. I ought to subscribe to more remote communities.

That makes sense too … All on lemmy world or even lemmy ml might be a different story.

It’s still going, and yea I’ve thought of that for sure. First cohort (including myself) are finishing The Book.

Thing is, because there’s be a major front end element, it may not be the best for first contributors.

I’d personally be quite happy to hack away at it though.

Yea. It feels like a feature that was due yesterday, especially given that is likely not that hard to implement (and instead got stuck in option paralysis a while ago).

I get that and it’s the common cause for usage of All I think.

That being said, to push back a little:

• All browsing was a thing on Reddit too. So I think it’d be fair to say it’s a style of usage some people just prefer or reach for (whether that applies to you)
• Unless one uses “New” or “scaled” sorting, surely it’s the big communities that dominate the All feed such that subscribing could easily achieve the same?
• Wouldn’t there be a trade off with interest or relevance being less in the All feed?

This is my experience at least. There’s definitely interesting stuff that pops up, but there’s some I’m not that interested in. If I’m interested, subscribing often makes sense.

For me, and I suspect many, multi-communities would go a long way to helping, as sometimes you don’t really want to subscribe to a community but maybe check in from time to time.