Lemmy is a clean slate. Let’s leave the Android/iOS butthurt shit on Reddit for as long as we can.
Please, I’m iOS user but I enjoy reading advances of android because both systems push each other to be better. We don’t need toxic BS here too.
Exactly. I use both along with macOS, Windows, Linux. All have their pros and cons and all work well. Most of the rant comments are just BS.
I’ve had bot android and iOS over the years. Love them both for their own reasons. Currently rocking a pixel 7.
Interesting, so windows vs mac os didn’t cause a flame war but Android vs IOS does.
Possibly because the cost for entry to macOS is higher than with iOS. Most people are able to run a Windows computer at very little cost, and will never have any interaction with a Mac. Meanwhile, iPhones and Android phones are (broadly) on a par in terms of cost.
I will say though, speaking as someone who’s used Macs since 2007, as much as I’m no fan of how Windows works, I won’t give anyone shit for doing so. But I used to get quite a bit of vitriol for my choice of computer.
Because nobody has windows user as a core part of their identity.
I was gonna comment that this exact post was made a few days ago with the only difference being Mac vs Windows instead. Seems you’re already aware, and you’re just farming. Nice.
Many people just have phones now.
It’s always interesting to see people turn something as universal as a phone into a competition.
If you’re willing to spend the money, you can make yourself look silly by spending thousands on either one.
Phones have become such a staple of modern existence, it’s about the same as wearing shoes.
Shit. I just realized they turn shoes into that, too
the windows vs mac shit is also toxic nonsense and you know it.
Backwards compatibility is a double-edged sword. It’s cool that you can run an apk from 10 years ago but there should be a point where you say that’s enough and drop support from them. Looking at Windows.
Not really. And what so you mean look at windows? You mean the most popular desktop os? Yeah I’m looking…
We have tons of problems today due to overextenring backwards compatibility to a point in which it just crates more tech debt than the benefits it brings. Windows and X11 are great examples, at least Windows is still being maintained.
I think the idea that dropping compatibility helps forward improvement is oversold. To quote “Things you should never do” https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/ . There’s no guarantee that the new version will be any better than the old version, because the people who actually learned things from the old version have moved on, conversely, the old version has all the cruft, which are otherwise known as “fixes” and which guarantee that it works reliably in all kinds of environments, something your new fancy version won’t have until it too becomes old.
Your only compatibility wall is the play store. If you’ve got the apk you’re installing 9/10 times. Apk repos are great.
Lots of games in Google Play Store are no longer possible to purchase because they are “incompatible with newer versions of Android”.
That’s probably because the Play Store has policies on what apps need to do to keep being downloadable - if you acquire an APK, there’s a really good chance that it might still be installable.
Difference is you can find all the apks online. With iOS you cant
Not yet, but the EU is gonna force Apple to allow sideloading apps.
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I used an apple phone for the first time at work, they gave us apple phones.
I was blown away when I realized you can’t just dump any old file on it, because I’m used to plugging in my android phone and throwing on some files like it’s any other removable storage. Not so with apple phones, incredibly limited.
See, I used to flash firmware for copy machines from my phone. Like if I went out to a site and didn’t prepare firmware before going I could just download it on my phone and flash from that.
The apple phone couldn’t do a bunch of stuff that I always thought was standard smartphone things. Also couldn’t display cell and wifi reception in decibels, and I used to do informal site surveys with my phone. Nope, apple can’t do that either, “bars” aren’t a good metric to wrote down.
That thing was about damn useless except to be used as a phone and an mp3 player.
I recently decided to jailbreak my ipod touch. The options are so fucking sketch it felt extremely gross. And thats coming from an android user. You know you are in best hands if the jailbreaking software link their mixtape.
Missleading, actually. Too many times werethere apps that failed to install because they were too old, even though there were some that worked. There’s the opposite problem though, with some old phones that have old android versions, some apps are too new to install. iOS gets frequent updates so this isn’t much of an issue, except if your device is way, way too old. I’m an avid android supporter, and I’ve never had an iOS device myself cause I detest it for other reasons, but I’ve gotta say both platforms are equally problematic on this regard. iOS has no backwards compatibility, android has no forwards compatibility.
I have an app that was made like 11 years ago that hasn’t been updated once that I still use daily lol. It’s a time clock with postal time on it. We go by clicks instead of minutes on a 24 hour clock. So 7:49 pm would be 19:82, hundredths. It’s a pain to convert sometimes. We use scanners to clock in/out and move functions and the scanners are in minutes… it’s fuxking dumb but…
The app still works like a charm :D lololol
I kinda like that system!
Can you install this IPA?
Apple: Noooo! You have to install apps from my App Store!
Unless of course, you pay $100 and call yourself a developer
Okay - who left the keyboard open to the kids?
Seriously, can we just stop the brand warefare? Just buy what you want. I’ve plenty of old apps that just work. The only real barrier was moving from 32 bits to 64, and that was like what…iOS 6 or 7?
If the devs update the app, then there’s no company issues. If they abandon it, that’s on them. Not sure what it is you’re actually arguing for.
I once bought a load of Lego games on my iPhone 3GS, mostly for my kid to play, but with a mind to play them myself when I got a chance.
Then iPhone switched over to 64 bit, and those games didn’t. Then the games got re-released in 64 bit, as a free download for the first level, with an in-app purchase to unlock the rest of the game. A game I’d already paid for on that platform, that I could no longer play.
That still pisses me off.
That’s on the game devs, not Apple. I’ve gotten plenty of updates from 32-to-64 bits.
Yes, please, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! I can’t hack this brand war shit anymore.
Not true. A lot of ioa devices can’t be updated so you can’t get the updated app even if it existed at one point.
Example you have an ipad mini running iOS 12. There were a lot of apps compatible with that version back then but they get pulled from the store so people are artificially fucked and need to buy a new device.
It’s not the same.
That makes no sense…think again; who’s at fault for any of this? Perhaps the devs??
No they have no control why a devices gets locked to a lower software version. Apple decides that.
And than there is netflix, which refuses to run on android phones with an unlocked bootloader, not even using a custom ROM, just an unlocked bootloader
Yeah Android CAN run the app if you have the APK. But also the play store won’t let you if the dev hasn’t updated the app in a couple of years. Older games are especially bad.
Who said anything about using playstore?
Android and iOS are both abysmal.
Damn right!
- Sent from Jerboa on Blackberry
This is funny considering Android 14 may be sunsetting support for 32-bit apps in favor of exclusive 64-bit apps, which will likely break a lot of backward compatability. Whoopsie doodles.
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Not true, the Pixel 7 has already removed 32-bit support. It’s a 64-bit exclusive OS and won’t let you sideload 32-bit apps.
most of the time? yes.
some apps do actually break with newer android versions though. It’s gotten a little better and happened less often after the big step to Android 4 (okay… that is itself more than 10 years ago)
but it can and does still happen sometimes
