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      A lot of people are very ignorant about history. This is much better than 12 hours a day 6 days a week and getting paid next to nothing. He wanted his workers to be able to afford the cars they were making

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    Wasn’t it seen as progressive and liberating at the time since it helped cement the existence of the weekend?

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        Right? We are literally in the 21st century, but still cling to the ideals and customs of the industrial revolution.

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        Ford was innovative because he used the scientific method to find out how long the work-week should be from a factory-owners perspective.
        And then he set it to that.
        If you’re a cog in a wheel in a factory that is still the ideal work-week from your owners perspective, sorry.

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      Unions are the real reason we have anything as workers, we just give Ford the credit for propaganda purposes.

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      That one thing was progressive.

      The literal Nazi shit he got up to, on the other hand…

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        Right, but this post is literally just about that one thing… If you want to boo him for the other shit you might want to bring the other stuff up as actual context in the image and repost it with the new context.

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        Ford is one of the most fascinating people in recent history, it’s a shame to boil him down to “antisemitic car man”

        Reading through his wiki is like :D D: :D D: :D D:
        The guy was the definition of a mad genius. An authoritarian anti-war socially progressive union-buster. That description doesn’t even make sense, but that’s who he was.

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          This also points to why private businesses are better than publicly traded businesses. Private business owners can do whatever the fuck they like, good or bad, meanwhile public businesses are legally obligated to pursue profits above all else on behalf of their shareholders.

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            The better option is the co-opt.

            Workers owning the business and working to make it better for themselves.

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      Still more progressive than Switzerland to this day. They have normalized 42.5h workweek. You need to work 8.5 hours to be considered a fulltime employee.

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        35 hour week ftw. Although many newer people I work with are on 37.5, they only get a half hour lunch.

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        Is a lunch break included here? In Germany it’s the norm to work 40h, but (are obliged to) spend an additional 30 minutes there for lunch. So you’re at work for 42,5h but only get paid for 40.

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          Nope, lunch is not included and unpaid (unless specified in contract, but virtually no one pays for lunch). Effectively ypu’re at work for 9.5 -10 hours.

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        There’s no such thing as a normalized workweek here in Switzerland. Most have 40-42h. The average are ~41h (edit: it seems that number is a few years old and it’s now just shy of 40h - but it’s too late in the evening to dig deeper). But yea, in certain jobs/industries, it can also be considerable more.

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          True it’s not nkrmalised. That’s my bad. All companies I met had more than 40h a week though. And even when I worked in a government owned company it was 42.5h

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    Considering the manufacturing work weeks used to be 12-15 hour days, 7 days a week, that’s a hell of an improvement.

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    I applaud him it’s was insanely generous at the time. Outdated for most of todays work but a 4 day type work week etc wouldn’t have even been thought possible at the time.