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      1 year ago

      Yes, but left and right guides this. Of course it’s complex, don’t infantilize the left/right divide.

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        You’re actually the one infantilizing the divide in this case and I’m saying this as a socialist myself.

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          No, I’m not. The original comment was a “both sides bad” centrist take, which is just a privileged way to say you don’t need to worry about politics.

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            “Both sides bad” is a bad take when applied to economics. In that area, one side is clearly superior. However, when it comes to politics as a whole, specifically social values, the other commenter is right. Now don’t get me wrong, it’s not like I’m crazy about the right’s social values or anything, but I am very critical of some of the stuff the left is promoting lately (and no, I don’t mean just chronically online liberals).

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              Social issues aren’t really a left or right thing, more progressive vs conservative.

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                I’d agree, except the progressives and conservatives align with the left and right respectively in 99% of cases. Some even go as far as to consider their social values inseparable from the economic ones. When’s the last time you met a conservative socialist, for instance?

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                  Those are generally because reasons for being a Socialist are largely revolutionary and against the status quo, in favor of more equality and logic, while conservativism and Capitalism are built on retaining existing hierarchies.

                  Joseph Stalin was a conservative Socialist, he banned gay marriage which was previously legal.